Guide advocates moving hatchery summer steelhead into fly water on North Umpqua

Our pals at Buster Wants to Fish published an anonymous Q&A with a prominent North Umpqua River fly guide who is advocating moving hatchery summer steelhead into the fly water on the North Umpqua. It’s a fascinating interview and you need to read this.

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6 Responses to Guide advocates moving hatchery summer steelhead into fly water on North Umpqua

  1. Sam Wilkes says:

    What would it take to get guides banned from the fly only waters on the North Umpqua? The approach works very well on the Metolius.

  2. Dave Vazquez says:

    And I quote:

    “So if ODFW took all the money from hatcheries and used it to bring back wild fish, I could get behind that.

    Now our winter steelhead in the Umpqua really need protection. In the winter we get 10,000 to 14,000 wild fish. And ODFW wants to institute a hatchery program and a kill fishery! All of us guides are against it. ODFW makes no sense. You can’t kill wild fish!”

    What XXX says is true. While I absolutely, categorically cannot get behind a hatchery program in the N. Umpqua, the Oregon Department of Failure and Waste needs to take a hard look at the way that it manages fisheries. Instead of dumping millions of zombie fish into various drainages, why not fulfill their mission to protect and enhance Oregon’s fisheries and environment?

  3. Olarry says:

    The guides are not the problem Sam. Out of the 10 guides in the flywater, 1 is a full time guide in the fly water all year and 1 is there in the heart of the summer and early fall. The rest of the guides do trips sure, but it’s not like 10 guides are out guiding every day all year, quite the contrary.

  4. Cat says:

    Hi, Was happy to hear that the ‘real’ fishermen are still on the side of the ‘real’ fish!

    -That is the only real Hope that our invaluable fisheries and wildlife have, to be safeguarded from the ineptitude of those bumbling bureaucrats in Salem that have facilitated the decline of ALL our Salmon, to the point that they are facing Extinction!

    I agree with the fact that ” Oregon Dept of Failure & Waste” makes no sense. You can’t kill wild fish!” Because the most important thing that Oregon’s fishermen need to do is “take a hard look” at the way fisheries are managed here. Otherwise, they will continue their destructive Hatchery regimes, to placate their “Buster Wants to Make MONEY” friends,..until there are only those ‘fake’ fish left! And those hatchery handouts are not even biologically viable. -Only 3% of them even come back!

    There is going to be a Public Meeting about this problem, at 6:30 on Nov. 18th at the Eugene Public Library (Tykkeson Room). It is being held by our new Non-profit called ‘Artists4Action’ – we work to solve environmental problems like this ‘Endangered Species’ challenge. We want to reach out and invite all interested parties to please attend and voice your opinion on the Salmon issue.

    We believe that it is only through Public Advocacy and support that such daunting problems have a chance of being solved – or else we may all be left with “Rivers Of Ghosts”.

    We need to DEMAND that the ODFW really SAVE OUR FISH! We have to be the leaders here, and make them “fulfill their mission to protect and enhance Oregon’s fisheries and environment”…..and we need to ‘get organized’ Now! – before it is ‘too late’ for the fish…..

    -Please Come On Down to the Library and tell us what you think about:
    “What’s the Best Way to ‘Save Our Salmon’?” – November 18 6:30pm

    Thanks for caring about Oregon’s Fisheries! Cat Koehn/Director ‘Artists4Action’

  5. Mark says:

    First of all there is a hatchery on the North Umpqua, they just don’t stock summer steelhead in the fly water anymore. The idea was that the native runs would return in significant numbers and everyone would be happy, the fish, the fishermen, the businesses, and even the environmentalists. Well, guess what, no great flourishing fishery developed, and nobody is really happy with the situation except maybe the few fish and the environmentalists. The plan was a stopgap measure to return the river to a natural fishery but the native fish still have to compete with hatchery fish below rock creek and run the gauntlet of gear fisherman all the way up from the coast. If you seriously want a return to a native fishery, you will have to consider dam removal and logging impact in the historic spawning grounds. Until then, why not stock a few thousand fish in the camp water each year…..what could it hurt?

  6. Terry says:

    Does anyone have a copy of this or a link that is not Buster Wants To Fish “virally infected” website?


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